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Depending on what happens w/ Jacobs, you return starters at all but 1 spot along w/ quality depth. Pretty much agreed that LSU is set to be loaded on that side of the ball, esp if you include Leslie and the slight chance of also adding in Gardner
What are your expectations of that side of the ball then? Can Les field another top offense, or have the past 5 yrs been what should be expected?
It'd take a significant failure if next year's offense isn't one of the best all around offenses in the SEC
GET AT ME
I don't expect a "top" offense, in terms of Total Offense statistics. I expect a balanced offense that controls the ball and produces a lot of first downs and touchdowns. Our offense isn't designed to run 90 plays and produce 500+ yds of offense every game like the Oregon and Texas A&M style of offenses. Our offense is designed to control the football, produce points and win football games. Particularly with a lot of turnover on the DL, I think you'll see Miles and Stud try to maximize Time of Possession next year to take the pressure off a DL that won't be quite as deep as we've enjoyed the last four years.
90 plays and 500 will never happen w/ this staff, but efficient and capable of putting up a ton of points, isn't asking too much. Basically an offense capable of carrying the team, which it'll have to do.
This post was edited by BlueToothJimmy 17 months ago
At the beginning of this year, my expectations were sky-high. The athletes at skilled positions, Mett and a young talented o-line seemed unstoppable. Then, of course & early-on, Faulk went down and musical chairs ensued searching for the right combination.
Because of plethora of talented olinemen, 'Bull' & 'Dozer' emerged to lend hope of an even more dynamic oline next year.
Mett improved and seems to have settled in to the responsibilities, too.
THE glitch in all of this firepower will be, as was this year, red-zone playcalling. If LSU can get that worked out, it'll be nice to see a BCS game somewhere other than New Orleans.
I would take an offense that could consistently produce 21-28 points without the need for crazy good field position or turnovers. Then, factoring in field position and turnovers, I will take 35-40 points per game.
I don't necessarily agree that the offense will have to carry the team. However, 20-30 points off of sustained drives from deep in LSU territory would be really nice.
"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in life." - Former LSU Coach and AD Paul Dietzel
If we had better Red Zone Offense this year we would be playing in the SECCG this week. If we fix that next year then we will be unstoppable.
I think you'll see more of what you saw against Bama, Mississippi State and Ole Miss. I think you'll see more 3 and 4-wide but it's not like they would abandon the run.
I think the expectations will be high if Mettenberger has a good bowl game and the offense is moving the ball. There will be a lot of pieces returning and a potentially real experienced OL and an improved WR corps that could go into the spring and summer with a lot of confidence.
"It's my hometown, and that's big for me," Henry said. "It's about playing for the home team in front of family
A real OC could have our offense next year put up 40+ points a game.
Our OC will have us around 30-35 a game...with games where we struggle to put up 2 TDs at times.
Paul Mainieri = 328-135 ovr (70.8%), 119-89 SEC (57.2%), 21-10 NCAA (67.7%), 3 CWS App., 1 National Title
I agree with Tbird. Expectations are related to who is coaching and calling plays next year. If it's Stud, we will see more of the same inconsistent, feast or famine, playing to the opponents' talent level that has plagued the 2012 team.
The more consistent and ball control we can be the better we will be.
The thing that interests me the most is on top of our returning guys.. A lot of them were very young. They will get better in the offseason on top of SEC experience. Tuner and Alexander getting to start the 2nd half of the season will pay absolute HUGE dividends for this upcoming season. The breakout of Jeremy Hill in mid-season, will be the starter to begin next season, is something most LSU fans should be very excited about. Obviously Mett seemingly start to feel comfortable with the speed of the game, progressions and the offense in general is the most important. I expect him to take another step forward in the offseason. Beckham and Landry will only get better, along with their repor with Mett. We can't forget about Copeland, either. Faulk coming back to protect Mett's backside has me excited so I hope he can stay healthy.
Don't forget, we have a bunch of Freshmen coming in and we don't know which guys will step up. We seem to have a few Freshmen come out of nowhere, step up and become a key cog in the offense/defense.
This team should improve drastically from the past few seasons and if LSU has another lacksidaisical offense like in years past, then there's obviously a MAJOR issue that must be addressed. That being said, I fully expect this offense to be a well above O and be an impressive group. This is setting up to be a fun year to watch with a team that will be able to put points on the board.. Barring any major injuries, suspensions and things of that nature.
Just my .02
Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.
Goodness have you guys even watched our games against Bama, Ole Miss, TAMU and almost of our recent games? How in the world can you guys sit there and say all of this when it's OBVIOUS Mett has gotten exponentially better, as has the YOUNG OL, WR and Rb's?
It's doom and gloom for way to many Tiger fans.. It must really suck being pissed off at Miles and LSU all of the time, even when they play really well on offense for a friggin' month.
This post was edited by Lesticals 17 months ago
the most recent cluster #$%@ vs a terrible team and defense is likely coloring some perspectives. LSU has had more games like those under LM than the 3 game stretch a month ago. It almost cost LSU a game they had no business losing and LSU subsequently dropped in the polls, and arguably hurt their bowl positioning.
All true. However every coach has them. I know of no coach in the upper echelons of football who has lost fewer games to opponents they had no business losing to than Les. If you can think of one let me know, but the list is short for sure.
I know Saban and Meyer have more to name the most obvious ones to look at.
"I strive to never let the perfect be the enemy of the good. They are companions, not rivals, for our affections." -Lance Paddock
Dude, you dont believe this. Those last 2 games were against teams that have been repeatedly drummed by by the upper half of the SEC by 25-30 pts and we needed a punt return to win one and a defensive stand to hold off the other. Metts "better play" has not translated into better redzone execution or points on the board...which is the only stat that matters.
I'm perfectly fine with a balanced offense that maintains an advantage in time of possession, as long as we really can execute, keep the chains moving, and finish drives. As has been mentioned, better playcalling and execution in the redzone is a must. I'm still not a real fan of Stud as OC, but I'd be ok with seeing the offense we ran most of the back end of this season (Arky game I felt we went back more to pre-Bama game offense) over the course of a full season as long as execution is there and the redzone stuff gets better.
First off, I don't think the bowl game, whichever it is, will affect next season one way or the other. These are isolated games in which trying to project performance next year based on them is frustrating and near impossible. Our O may or may not be better depending on who's calling the plays, red zone offense, and off-field, academic, and injury problems. These will occur as we all know. The O-line will be young, Mett, while trending upward, is erratic, and the running game took a hit when the passing game got better. A young O-line is tremendously challenged to know how to both pass- and run-block with equal proficiency. I hope the O will be better next year, but to make a blanket statement that it's a fact that it will be is presumptious.
For a team dealing with off-field issues, injuries, youth, and marginal leadership they did about as well as could be expected. They should have beaten Bama except for a defensive breakdown and that would have been overachieving. The losses were largely the result of injuries and inexperience, and the late season let down is not unusual for a young team that has seen all their hopes and goals go down the tube. The last LSU team with this much of a leadership void was 2008 and we don't want to remember how they handled the OM and Arky games. This season we won both. The punt return was by a soph that's been screwing them up all year and folks were calling for Miles to replace him. The last play in the other was great defense by a freshman. That's been the story of the season. When our young guys made big plays we did well, when they screwed up we didn't.
The O will have an effective leader next season and it will finally be at the position it should be - QB. We'll have some strong young o-linemen and at least three or four very talented backs. Our WR corps will only improve with experience and additions. This tells me that the O should be significantly better. The O did not lose the Bama game. When you get to the last minute and a half with a lead and the opponent with no TO's in their own end you should not lose in regulation. But I'll leave the D up to Chavis. There were just too many freshman mistakes this year and they cost us in both losses on both sides of the ball. That should get better also.
It's not bad being 10-2 and having every expectation of being better.
This post was edited by pttigris 17 months ago
"It's short of larceny. It's surely not bigamy, but there is some lack of integrity that somebody can go in and bang on," Les Miles
After watching Courtney Gardner's highlights, it's scary to think how good he could be and what Mettenberger could do with those two and the WR's he had this year.
This post was edited by Sonny Shipp 17 months ago
he's got talent to take LSU's offense to another level next yr. Completely toys w/ JUCO defenders. Instant contributor.
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