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Hmmm thats kinda strange,Why did Miami just stop recruiting the kid?
Thanks for the link GW.
Would love to have him. Start a pipeline to that school.
Their mods say Miami thinks he's an OT. But who knows, maybe they didn't think they'd get him so started focusing on others. I'm sure Miami fans ask the same question about Tim Williams.
You have to wonder if he only played offense in his State Championship game....Weird???
The party line from the Miami guys I know and the Miami site here it has more to do with him not fitting their style. If I recall correctly they run a version of the 3-4 and he just doesn't fit at DT or DE in their opinion. Who knows. Our gain.
Most scouting reports I've seen say his future is on the OL..
Yet two of the best defensive coaching staffs (LSU and Florida) in the SEC are recruiting him as a DT.
Remember, EVERY big DT prospect is also a great OL prospect. It's not hard to see the offensive potential of a big, athletic kid. The trick is identifying which ones have the athleticism and aggressiveness for DT.
The scouting reports of every major national recruiting service have him at DT.
How big classification is his school? Surprised he doesn't go both ways at least a few snaps unless his school is a larger classification.
They are 3A. Apparently he did come in at DT in goal line situations.
Here a free Scout article from after the game. He discusses positions and mentions LSU a couple of times.
Just pasting the recruiting stuff:
Bain, 6-foot-4 and 290-pounds, mainly played offensive tackle in this game. He helped protect quarterback Mike White, who led them back from 17-0 deficit.
“I can play either position in college,” Bain said. “But I want to play defense at the next level.”
Now the question for Bain is where will be play? He was a one time commitment to Florida State.
“It was best for me to back off that commitment,” Bain said. “Things were crazy and I had to back off. But I did recently have an in-home visit with FSU. I also had one with LSU and they are coming back.”
Bain has also made recent official visits this fall to both Oklahoma and Marshall. Those are two schools that he can see himself at.
“Oklahoma was great,” Bain said. “It was fun and they showed me a good time. Bob Stoops has a great program and they always win. It was a very exciting time for me.
“Marshall is my backup plan in case things don’t work out with my SAT or grades. Plus, I know some kids there.”
Who else is Bain looking at?
“LSU for sure and Louisville,” Bain said. “They are both coming for in-home visits next week.”
Bain also said he will make his decision on national signing day.
---Hope he will let the coaching staffs know his choice before NSD.
Fresh off a state championship victory Ft. Lauderdale (Fla.) University School defensive tackle prospect talks about five schools that are still in his sights.
I watched the game and he was standing around a lot.
“There is no off switch on a tiger”
So, he's also an academic risk? WOW!
I like Bain to end up at LSU if he qualifies.
And the staff has turned DTs into OTs before, even if Chris Davenport has broken into the two-deep yet..
"I guess you've just gotta find something you love to do and then... do it for the rest of your life." - Max Fisher
University has a Stout defense, that's probably why he doesn't play DT to much. I loved his film but when I saw him play in the championship game and the trotwood game he didn't look good.
Did u see Skai Moore?
I'm sure University has a stout defense as evidenced by their state championship, but stout enough that a guy being ostensibly recruited to play DT at LSU and Florida is not good enough to play defense for his high school team?
We've all heard of guys being recruited to play WR/DB/RB at a SEC school who plays QB at his high school under the understandable want for the high school coach to play his best athlete at QB, but I've never heard of a HS coach "insisting" on his star lineman not play defense and playing offensive line instead. Just strange. Unless we are intending on keeping him at OL, at which case I wonder, why? With Pocic, Dodd, Boutte and Malone arleady committed.
Maybe needed more on offense than on defense? I highly doubt he "is not good enough to play defense for his high school team". A lot of high school coaches want their kids to play primarily on one side or the other. If a kid can play either, playing just one primarily doesn't mean he can't play the other. The coach is making decisions to win games, not to highlight the kids' skill sets.
Tevin Lawson is another kid that could always play on either side, but he's played a lot more OL in high school than DL. Yet, he was an early offer at DT for LSU.
To be honest, I'm not the biggest fan of Brick Haley's evaluation and recruiting of DT's. So far, the only DT he evaluated and signed that has made a real impact is Freak Johnson, who was a no-brainer. I think Ego has been at least a mild dissapointment so far, but he's just a RSF. Only time will tell what we have in Quentin Thomas and Mickey Johnson. But with that said, I still put more stock into the evaluation of a DT prospect by the LSU and Florida staffs than whether his high school coach decides to play him on offense or defense.
Remember, Lamar Louis played more RB at Breaux Bridge than LB, but he looks like a great LB prospect for the Tigers. Marcus Spears actually played as much or more TE and even RB at Southern Lab than he did DE.
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Maybe that's the trend these days at the high school level, you put your best linemen on offense rather than defense. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not a high school football coach.
I can see putting a college LB'er to be at RB, you want the ball in his hands. Same with the previously described best athlete at QB rather than WR or DB where he'll play in college.
Certainly interesting that our 2 DL recruits are OL in high school. I have seen vice versa quite a bit where a kid doesn't have the skill set to play DL at the SEC level and is moved to OL in college (Davenport, Barksdale). Seen high school TE's moved to OL and DL in college (Whitworth, Spears). Until this year with Lawson and Bain can't say I recall a high school OL to college DL move before?
Like NE said, it is probably just a matter of what the team needed. For example, let's say, for the sake of argument, on a scale of 1-10, that Quay is a 7/10 at DT and a 6/10 at OT. Now again, for the sake of argument, assume the backup DT is a 5/10 and the backup OT is a 3/10. Therefore, the dropoff from Quay to the backup OT is greater than that to the backup DT, and team needed him more at OT.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I think it's apparent that the coach thought he was more valuable to their team on the OL.
If he were at a smaller school with fewer FBS prospects, I'm guessing he would've played both ways. But University School has a 3-star LB (Rutgers commit) and a 4-star LB in the 2013 class, and a 4-star 2014 DB. That's a lot of talent on one high school defense.
Note: they also had other 2013 prospects on defense: a 2-star LB; two 2-star DB's, and; a 2-star ATH that plays defense (Kentucky commit).
When a high school coach has that much talent, he has flexibility in where he uses the guys that can be really good on either side of the ball.
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