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Figured this would make for some some good conversation. I was talking with a buddy on Thursday about the best players we have ever seen in person. We started off talking college, but I tossed in some high school talk as well.
Who do you guys have?
I would represent the younger generation in this debate, but I went with...
Offense - Cam Newton (the game at Auburn where he ran all over LSU was insane, as was that whole stretch run to his NC. Guys were just falling down on their butts trying to tackle him. I had never seen one player take over like that. He was pretty special that year).
Defense - Tyrann Mathieu (have never seen anyone who would make you sit on the edge of your seat every time he got near the ball. It was one of those things were you always knew Mathieu would deliver 1-2 wow moments a game. It was just a lot of fun to watch.)
Offense - D'haquille Williams (One of the most raw, athletic football players I've ever seen in person. He was fierce, too. He had that killer instinct to where everyone was afraid of him on the field, and he wasn't even in a position to hit people... There were games where he would have 5 catches for 4 TDs against some good competition. If he doesn't make it to college, he's NFL bound. I still don't think his career is over).
Defense - This one was toughest for me, and I guess I don't really have an answer. Outside of seeing guys in All-Star game practices, I watched full games of players like Anthony Johnson in NOLA and Jerrell Powe up at Wayne County in Miss., and both were unstoppable at times. Powe was unblockable on almost every snap in 5A ball, and Johnson ended up setting the national sack record. I probably forgot someone and would go back and change the answer if I really thought about it.
"I guess you've just gotta find something you love to do and then... do it for the rest of your life." - Max Fisher
Travis Minor was probably the most dominant player I can remember watching in high school. His game against WM in the 1996 state semi finals was pretty amazing. SIngle-handedly kept Catholic in the game against in a losing effort against Tommy Banks and WM with a couple of long runs, a kick return and even played safety because CHS could not stop Tommy up the gut. Probably the best high school game that I've ever attended.
Defensive...this is tough. Bradie James was pretty damn dominant though. Most impressive film I've ever seen was from Tray Blackmon, a kid from GA that went to Auburn about a decade ago. His film was absolutely amazing. highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3QcPAqS1Q)
College, there are so many...Shaun Alexander's nearly 300 yard performance in 1996 was pretty impressive though.
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Hugh Green Pitt DE and Mr. Walker UGa RB. They absolutely dominated back in the day. For recent college guys I will go all SEC with Tim Tebow and TM7. Both had that contagious energy to spark the team.
Randy Moss- he was just totally dominant, even as a sophomore; he also made one of the best catches I've ever seen by a center fielder when he played baseball his senior year
Chris Strong, class of 2007 DE/LB from South Panola
In high school, LaDainian Tomlinson or Adrian Peterson on offense and defensively, Jeff Luc.
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In college I'll go with Reggie Bush on offense and for defense I'll go with a healthy Glenn Dorsey.
Bo Jackson & Tyrann Mathieu
College. Billy Cannon was a man among boys. On defense. The Chinese Bandits were subs that thought they were the best. One of them even made an All American team.
High school was Chris Williams of Tioga High and LSU fame.
That I've actually seen play in person?
Defense : Toby Caston in high school & Michael Brooks in college. Brooks was a disruptive as any college defender I've seen.
Offense : Bo Jackson & Charles White (USC) were scary in college. I cannot choose between them. I'll pass on high school... too many mixed up memories.
Offense - TIE - W.Dunn and K Faulk -
Defense- TIE - Dorsey and R Clark
Tommy Casanova best 2 way player in high school for sure
So little time, so much to do
Bo Jackson/Reggie Bush - the skills were on a complete other level
HS nobody was better than Cannon that I have seen.
Earl Campbell was great in college as was Walker
Offense-Tommie Frazier. That guy was special at Nebraska. Wasn't the best passer but when he had the ball in his hands you just expected great things to happen. Randy Moss is 2nd for me. Was a manchild at Marshall. It really wasn't fair.
Defense-Mathieu for the reasons Shea said. Kid just was special instinctively. Other than him and my slight homerism, Lavar Arrington. He was a beast at PSU. "The Leap" was something that isn't common even though it's happened a few times since.
Pure and simple, Ronald Curry from Hampton High School here in VA. Never seen one kid dominate football games the way he did. He could beat you passing, running, on returns and on defense. Such a disappointment in college but had flashes of his extraordinary playmaking ability. Had a juke at the goaline against UVA his Jr year that was something special.
Second is Percy Harvin. The skills he showed at UF and in Minnesota, were even more evident at Landstown. He was something special on the field and stood out even amongst some other very talented kids in the Hampton, VA area during his career.
Another just to mention because he was special with the ball is Allen Iverson. He was so quick with the ball. He could've played football in college and likely the NFL if he would've chosen that path(and not had the legal issues). Likely as a RB, WR or CB but he had special quickness.
"Best" I saw was Warrick Dunn...as a sophomore playing fullback. Most elusive I ever saw.
"Most dominant" was Juice Williams, but that was a 6'0"+ 235lb RB versus 1A competition.
Warrick Dunn was pissed they lost that WM game especially given WM flooded their field the days leading to it. Perfect conditions for Banks. News reporters vans getting stuck in the mud is just crazy.
Best I have gone up against was a tie between Brady James and Brock Berlin.
College - Barry Sanders and Warren Sapp.
Bo Jackson. I talked to a LB who played against him and asked if he laid the wood to Bo and he said yes and only once. Problem was that Bo was two yards out of bounds at the time.
Tommy Casanova. There will NEVER be another one.
I saw Catholic High play at Carencro and they won because they cheated! Major Applewhite and Travis Minor against Kevin Faulk and Wade Richie the kicker. There were 3 all-Americans on the field that night. I don't think Major was AA. So, Kevin "buzzardville" Faulk for offense. Or Early Doucet.
Defense has to be Trev Faulk, no, Glenn Dorsey. He was pretty bad dude.
I remember bits and pieces but how did CHS allegedly cheat?
Oh I wanted to add Shyron Carey at QB to the list of best played against. Well he didn't have a good but he was running sideline to sideline like made multiple times on one play but never really gained any yards but could see why he was a star.
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Marcus Dupree in the early 80's. He was like a HS player playing against Pee Wee league.
They parked 4 ambulances..........TRUE.........at the games as he'd run over kids and mess them up so bad.
It was in the era of big cheating ...openly...and cheating was rampant in his recruiting.
The games I attended always had college coaches at them. One game had Barry Switzer....whom he signed with....at the game.
His recruitment was a nationally documented one.....pre Internet, cell phone, 24/7 coverage of kids.
Dude was bad....
Yeah, where was the cheating? I was at the game in Carencro...I think it was the first game of the season. KF was a QB running the option for Carencro; Apllewhite, Minor and about 5 or 6 D1 kids on the other side. Catholic was the better team.
Yeah, I do believe you were at the game.
I take back my earlier statement. Cheating is hard to prove. The CHS OL was great much like Bama's line this year in TS. LSU had about 14 penalties and Bama had one holding call. One penalty. One.
CHS and Bama OL are just coached up that well. I cannot recall the box score from that HS game but cheating is hard to prove especially 20 years later. The Coach from Catholic High is a legend in Louisiana football and he deserves to be.
I actually played against a fellow by the name of Mickey Joseph. Funny story. On the opening play of the game their O against our D. They run the option to the strong side and me and a DE on my team gets Mickey for a 2 yards loss. Me and and teammate both get in his face talking smack. I hit him with that ALL DAY trash talk. Mickey gets up off the ground and tells me and the whole defense that they were going to run the same play on the following play. Next play he goes for 82 yards for a score Running the exact same play. That was the beginning of what became a very long night. I think he finished with 250 yards by half time. He didn't even play the 2nd half. They put his brother Vance in the game to finish us off! That guy was amazing! I've seen some super talent come out of The Westbank I.e. Reggie Wayne, Kordell Stewart, Leonard Valentine, Leo Addison, James Jones, Chris Diggs, Tyrone Vaugh, Robbie Green, James Toney, Skyler green, etc but Mickey was head and shoulders better than all!
College- I remember my first game at Tiger Stadium, LSU vs AU. Kevin Faulk gets injured in the game and in comes this freshmen RB by the name of Cecil Collins. OMG! I have never seen a RB dominate a team like Cecil did that night. I remember on one of his TD runs he ran out of his shoe and still scored. I never seen Bo Jackson play in person, that night i drove away from the game thinking I just witnessed the second coming of Bo.
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I was a o-lineman for thibodaux from 06-09 started 3 years and they best player ive ever had to block was hands down Rolando Melancon from Lutcher....
That guy had it all ridiculous strength,great quickness and his hands were constantly keeping mine off of him, i was only a sophmore but he TORE MY A** UP ALL NITE!..... Now ive blocked a lot of good dlineman, Went head up wit Jordan Allen and MIngo from the LB position a few times, and mickey johnson and Houston Bates were another few dlineman that were good, but none compared to Melancon... anyone know what happened to him??? i know he signed with tenn and went juco never herd a peep since though.
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