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I don't know the answer. This team is under-performing and that's the nicest way to describe it. Injuries, suspensions and dismissals have been horrible. People made justifications on Mathieu's absence, but I think it's apparent now he was the player we could least afford to lose. Our projected 1st rd O-Lineman got hurt in practice, starting LB out, FB is done. Best RB is done. That's 5 starters who all would have made a difference.
Couple that with ZERO leadership on offense, with a QB who lacks maturity and focus and it's not a good recipe.
We have no O-Line coach on the field, which is a paradox considering the results thus far.
Miles runs this offense and we've consistently in the worst 30 offenses for the last few years.
In our last 2 SEC games, we've averaged 3 points a game. 3 points. THREE points.
Be Here Now
I agree with most of what you said, but neither of these statements is true.
That should have read offensively. I was i class on my phone. We scored 6 points against AUB, Mike's TD run. Alleman with the pat and fg and safety to make 12. That's 6 points by our offense against AUB and 0 against bama.
Our offense has been VERY average since 2007 and right now were ranked 91st against 5 really bad teams. We were in the 100s with Crowton. I don't know where we haven't been in the bottom 1/4 in the last 5 years.
LOL, so field goals and extra points don't count? It doesn't matter that the offense got us into position for them? That's an absurd, illogical, arbitrary distinction. You just discredited your entire argument.
I assume the class you were in wasn't statistics. Any mathematician worth his salt would also tell you that it's not representative at all to use only the last two games, when we averaged over 35 in the preceding nine SEC games. You are picking and choosing your facts to purposefully miscontrue them, starting with the result you want and then manipulating the stats to back it up.
I have no idea where you are even getting your stats from. We are ranked 47th in total offense right now, against three bad teams, one okay team and one good team. More importantly, we are 24th in scoring offense. Last year we were 17th at the end of the year, even including basically two goose eggs against Bama.
There's another fallacy you have. As soon as they start determining who wins and loses based on yardage I will start worrying more about total offense. For now I'll remain mostly concerned with how many points we score and how many we give up. You know, things that actually matter...
This post was edited by Gravitiger 18 months ago
I never said I am happy with the offense. I initially tried to say I agreed with his concerns while respectfully pointing out that his facts were incorrect. When that didn't work I had to call BS.
I am all for honest, well-conceived constructive criticism but that isn't what this was at all. It was just a doom-and-gloom prediction based on manipulated or flat-out fabricated stats.
Auburn is ok (they will likely make a bowl), and Washington is good (top 25 and third best team in the Pac 12).
I thought last year's offense was at least average, as is this year's. People get so hung up on our pitiful passing attack they forget how dominant our rushing game is.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Gravitiger 18 months ago
Last year we were a great rushing team and average passing team.. we were one of the better redzone offenses in the country.. This year our run game is still darn good our passing is still avg, and our redzone offense isnt doing nearly as well. Good thing is there is alot of football left to play
Our redzone offense is not good at all this year... we couldnt possibly keep up last years efficiency , but we have seen a significant dropoff this year in redzone scored and TD's scored
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Red Zone defense is just as bad. Only 8 trips in, but we're giving up 100% with 6 of the 8 being TDs.
Our offense finishing outside of the top 50 and closer to the bottom 50 for four years in a row hardly qualifies as average...the special teams plays, and defensive gems gave the offense the appearance of being average when in essence it was in the bottom 50 of the NCAA and that was with a run game that was pretty good at times...
I didn't say anything about four years in a row. I said last year and so far this year. Don't change the perameters of my argument to fit your agenda.
Anyway, for the umpteenth time, stop focusing on relatively meaningless yardage statistics. Yards really don't matter that much. Points do--points scored and allowed. In other words, things that we are really good at. Other stats that matter a hell of a lot more than yards: turnover ratio, time of possession, and third-down percentage, also all things that we have been very good at the past couple of years (but are admittedly down this year).
Yes, our defense and special teams help our offense out (a lot, at times). But they are supposed to. That's the way our team is built, and it's been proven for decades that that is the best way to consistently and comfortably win football games. The reason teams like WVU and Oklahoma State inevitably lay an egg to an inferior team every single year is because their defenses and special teams don't complement their offenses like ours do. Every time they trade touchdowns it's a complete wash, no net gain whatsoever. Every time we trade punts we gain 10-15 "invisible" yards (at least).
A run game that was pretty good at times? If that's how you would describe it, you just refuse to be pleased or reasoned with.
This post has been edited 5 times, most recently by Gravitiger 18 months ago
I said offense...not the teams productivity...obviously all of the units worked pretty well in unison last year...we were 13-0 after all but if your talking strictly about the offense it left plenty to be desired at several junctures during the season especially when it mattered most...
And yes we ran the ball pretty well at times last year...
You were the one who brought up the relationship between the three phases and how the other two impact the offense.
I guess you are right about one thing: we did only run it pretty well at times. But most of the other 90% of the season (save the most important game, unfortunately), we ran it phenomenally well.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Gravitiger 18 months ago
Actually we ran it pretty well in the 2nd half of games after wearing teams down...don't let the facts of what happened get in the way though...that's what happens when your OFFENSE is average at best and one dimensional which allows teams to load the box...
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TigersRule1 18 months ago
That did happen a couple of times, but it was far from the norm. And even when we did turn it on in the second half we ran it much better than "pretty well."
Believe whatever "facts" you need to make up to justify your position. We can agree to disagree. I can't believe I let myself get sucked into this crap again.
This post was edited by TigersRule1 18 months ago
I can tell you the problem from experience.
Your guy in the booth is also the oline coach. He has no imagination in the pass game and things no matter what his line can always win the battle. I watched the auburn game...and i saw basically four routes all game. Slant, hitch, comeback, and slant and go. Half the passes were checks out of a run call. Addazio destroyed our offense. Our oline play went down because he wasn't coaching them(see your pass protection), and our play calls were almost 70 percent runs and no creativity on pass plays.
Now maybe les played very close to the vest idk, but it felt like i was watching addazio call floridas offense in 2010.
P.s. not trying to start a fight...just something I saw.
This post was edited by ryan596 18 months ago
Good to hear another perspective who has no reason to be biased and I agree with a lot of it
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