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I know Sonny said he is a gamer. Does he really run a 4.7 fourty?
Subject of much debate this year. I don't know what he runs in a timed run but he doesn't appear to be a "fast" kid in relativity to many others. I'd venture to say a 4.6ish kid but his short area speed and movement is impressive from my view. He's a football speed guy which is more important imo.
The argument goes that he ran a 4.4 either as a sophomore or junior at LSU and the Monroe area/Neville supporters stand by that notion hard. Many of those that have seen him run in person will tell you that he's not a speed guy. I just know he makes plays with the ball and that's all I care about. Have seen many kids with top flight speed do nothing when they have the ball.
excatly. does Xavier Carter ring a bell??
I've witnessed him run a 4.7 range at a couple of combines when he wasn't in playing shape meaning they were in February and March.
Anyone who has seen him play, though, will attest to his football speed is better than 99% of your guys that run in that same range. And his short area quickness is exceptional.
I remember the same thing happening with Spencer Ware when he committed.
Here's a link to people having this very same discussion about him:
From a blog page that's no longer there:
Spencer Ware was timed this weekend running the 40-yard dash in the 4.6 range with a laser which is absurdly fast for being 227 pounds.
After the 40-yard dash, Spencer mentioned to me that he is in baseball season shape, pretty much insinuating that he could have run faster if he was training for this type of an event.
I am pretty sure Spencer was asked to attend the combine two days before the event. So its not like he has been working with his personal trainer for months leading up to the event. Sometimes a good trainer can drop one-tenth of a second off your 40 time just working on your start and running form.
Spencer Ware simply just rolled out of bed Saturday morning at 7:30 am and just a few short hours later busted out a couple of 4.6 laser 40-yard times. They were some of the best times of the day.
He also boasted a 37-inch vertical to answer any of the questions about his explosion at 227 pounds.
Not too shabby. (ESPN.com listed him at 4.72 seconds.)
4.7 40 time :wha: Damn, that's slow for a RB. If we're taking this kid over Storm I really don't understand this move at all. Storm seems way more athletic than Spencer.
Oh yeah, I remember that. I also remember people being outraged we took him but not Storm Johnson.
Good post Chinese. I'd bet good money that Ware runs no faster than the mid 4.6s right now and that may be me being nice. Doesn't matter with his style. Speed is sexy but in most cases it's really not nearly as big a deal as people make it out to be.
Tyraan ran a 4.63 out of high school at his combine. It was the time listed on all his profiles. He just seemed to get faster, and faster, once the whistle blew, though.
Thanks, I have not seem him play and hope we can stretch the field next year a little better.
Has he ever been timed in a 3 cone or shuttle drill?
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I agree with Sonny, this is one of those times that you throw the forty time out the window. John advanced the football extremely well against a very athletic Karr defense, that was good enough for me! I think the 4.7-4.8 times reported for him were electronic, and can easily be 4.6 or better when hand timed. I think his "game speed" is as good as any and will serve him well at LSU!
He was the best player on the field last year against Breaux Bridge too. Yes, that Travin Dural, Lamar Louis and Kavahra Holmes led,Breaux Bridge team. He may have been the fourth best athlete (Laurence Jones was there too) but he was the best football player.
He was the difference in the game with two big interceptions (both set up scores) and just enough of a running game to close the game out.
From the Advocate article:
Quarterback John Diarse, who also had both interceptions off Menard from his safety position, led Neville with 17 carries for 78 yards and a touchdown.
BREAUX BRIDGE — With nine previous state championships to its credit, Neville High School has authored one of the state’s more storied trad
I can't remember off the top of my head but his shuttle and 3-cone were better than the 40 both times I watched him at combines. I do remember walking away thinking that.
That was our Combine and it was an electronic time. The general rule of thumb is you can shave .18 seconds off the electronic time and it would correlate to what a stopwatch would record if started and stopped correctly.
Most important thing is that Diarse gains speed relative to everyone else when the pads and lights come on.
That's why we wander and follow La Vie Dansante...
You hit that nail on the head:)
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