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That would make 5 coaching openings in the SEC.
Order of which I would take that job.
"That was Death Valley,". "That was the place where opponents' dreams come to die. Coach Les Miles after the LSU - South Carolina game.
If true Mizzou OL coach Josh Henson may be looking for a position. Man, I wish some school would offer Studwara a HC position somewhere.
Regards to All,
I have no inside information on this but a few different sources are expressing surprise at this rumor. I too would be surprised if he resigned after one year in the SEC unless it is as a result of some off-field stuff. What Coach Pinkel did at Mizzou has been incredibly impressive considering where this program was 12 years ago when he took over.
If it does happen, I would rank Mizzou as the third best job on that list ahead of Auburn. Tennessee & Arkansas are, arguably, better options but each has the added pressure of supremely high expectations. Auburn, on the other hand, is a mess: possibiltiy of NCAA sanction, huge competition in recruiting your own backyard, and a notoriously persnickity booster program. Whereas Mizzou draws from two fairly good sized towns (Saint Louis & Kansas City) with extremely solid high school football scenes, budgeted and planned improvements to facilities on the horizon, & MUCH lower expectations.
Someone, and I haven't written off Coach Pinkel yet, will make Mizzou a competitive SEC program along the lines of an Arkansas.
Vianney High School,
Pass Game Coordinator,
Varsity QB & RB Coach,
Saint Louis, MO.
If true, that has to be a surprise to most football followers. There'a a blurb on YardBarker or FoxSports regarding this rumor. Pinkel had a DUI last year and there was a website set up to humilate him. He had rough sledding on Mizzou's first SEC year. I thought Gary's team, given their injuries, performed well
I think the Mizzou addition is a solid one for the SEC. And I'd rank the long term possiblitles as good as those at Auburn or Arkansas. I, also, believe they should be part of the SEC West.
As healthy as the SEC is in terms of successes, tv contracts, and putting together a remarkable 14 team conference, five vacancies in one year is mindboggling. The BCS top ten has 6 SEC members with what, 6 teams with ten or more wins. New coaches come to TexasAM and Vanderbilt and get credible in no time.
This is big boy and corporate football at its very best and worst.
This post was edited by lsutiger76 17 months ago
I would put Auburn in front of Arkansas.. Arky just got to the SEC 20 years ago, smaller stadium.. TERRIBLE High School talent.. No titles, no history.. I would go as far to say that it's not even close between Auburn and Arky as to which one is the better job.
Just my opinion though man.
Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.
Probably, this one is in the eyes of the beholder.
If Auburn is facing sanctions, that doesn't bode well for whoever steps in there. I see Saban increasing his stranglehold on in-state kids. Arkansas has had winning programs in basketball and track and field. They won twelve or thirteen championships in the old SWC. And I think they won a SEC W title by default.
I think the jobs at Auburn and Kentucky pose more immediate problems than at Fayetteville..
And given it's been 10 months since Petrino left, they should have a head start on who can do the job.
There was plenty of talent on this current Hog team - Wilson may be the best QB in the SEC. Just another opinion in this discussion.
Just saying.. Auburn is a top 12 team of all time in total Wins.. Saban is almost 70, won't be at Alabama forever.
Arkansas High School talent is really, really bad.. They never have been able to recruit well, it's not a "sexy" SEC team and they HAVE to go out of state to get good players.. They also have a smaller stadium and have done absolutely nothing on the national scene.. They've never won the SEC either.
Auburn has a ton of talent on that team (a couple top 5 recruiting classes lately) but they weren't coached up. They have a great history with a TON of great players that have come through their program. I don't think you're giving Auburn enough credit based on their recent history but we all have different opinions on things.
I guess we just agree to disagree on this one man.
Perhaps Pinkel sees the writing on the wall? I knew about the DUI but I thought that was handled. Wouldn't surprise me to see Pinkel take a ACC or even a Big 10 job. He had to see he won't be contending in the SEC anytime soon, if ever.
I think Auburn is the best job. Only because Auburn insiders have shown they have a system in place that says damn the NCAA we have a network in place that will enable us to secure necessary talent to compete for championships.
Tennessee's administration, I don't believe, is willing to do "whatever it takes" like auburn is. Sure they can pay a coach handsomely and sure they have a giant stadium and facilities, but unless the administration is willing to "look the other way" like Auburn's is, there is going to be significant hurdles to be very successful.
Kentucky is the worst job simply because basketball is King and there is no commitment, to say nothing of the lack on in-state talent to succeed in football in Lexington.
61 is almost 70? Wow, bet you tell some great hunting and fishing stories! LOL!!!!
Oh well... I would've bet the farm that Saban was 67, I'm not even lying Lol
Thanks for the correction... And you should've seen the size of that Redfish!
You're correct, I'm probably discounting what's at Auburn. They have been successful, have a tradition, and have been able to recruit successfully. Your points are well taken. But unless they can being a stud coach aboard,who can overcome a cloud of possible sanctions, I see them going through a down phase. And that instate rival is getting their way.
My argument wasn't about love for the Hogs or a discount of the Barners. I simply think that job in Fayetteville may be a better one, if offered today. There has been a ambitious build-up of facilities since Petrino's arrival. While Arkansas HS talent doesn't measure up to Louisiana, they have produced a few quarterbacks.
Just my take, but the Arkansas program has struggled to find the family they belong to - the old SWC, the SEC, or the Big 12. If Petrino hadn't lied about his relationships or hadn't gaven preference on a hiring, they may have done better this year.
Right now, I'm kinda enjoying the disarray in both programs. Appreciate your note.
I guess I'm in the minority, but I'm of the opinion that say the U. of Buffalo could build a 100k seat stadium, built state-of-the-art facilties that recruits drool over, but if there is not a "system" in place (and that doesn't mean stadium/facilities) to "secure" these recruits, it won't make a difference. And, that is what Auburn has that I don't believe Arkansas and Tennessee is committed to.
Auburn is going to do whatever it takes to get recruits. "Secondary violations" do not phase them. If they want Cam Newton, they are going to get Cam Newton. Again, maybe I'm naive', but I don't think Arkansas or Tennessee at this stage (they would in Fulmer's heyday before the lawsuits started flying) is going to do what it "takes" to get the "next Cam Newton" to Fayetteville or Knoxville. To take a more recent example, Auburn got outbid for T.J. Yeldon. Not surprising that happened with the NCAA sniffing around Trooper and Luper. In any ordinary year, Auburn is not going to let Yeldon (or Foster) get away. What has to be done, will be done and I don't see Auburn skipping a beat in that regard once the new coach is in place.
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