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  • Reading a couple of threads got me thinking about this when looking back at 2012.

    What is the one position that LSU can least afford to get hit by injuries at?

    RB is one that jumps out to me but I think the DL is just as worrisome when it comes to injuries.

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  • QB is the obvious danger spot, but after that safety is badly depleted after the first team.

    Entropy

  • DL without a doubt especially DT

    rc9605

  • With the entire defense being young, you can make a case for any position. I believe it's in the secondary. If Mills or Loston were to go down for an extended period of time, then we are forced to play extremely unproven players I base packages and moreso in nickle/dime packages.

    Bobaganoosh

  • Bobaganoosh said...

    With the entire defense being young, you can make a case for any position. I believe it's in the secondary. If Mills or Loston were to go down for an extended period of time, then we are forced to play extremely unproven players I base packages and moreso in nickle/dime packages.

    True that and in another thread Sonny mentioned that Sandolph was coming along nicely. We need him in the worse way. Sandolph or someone else that is.

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  • Well...we all saw what happened when Faulk went down. Same things can be said about the OL as well. What happens if Hawkins or L. Collins goes down?

    usafflyingtiger

  • Entropy said...

    QB is the obvious danger spot, but after that safety is badly depleted after the first team.

    Wow, that's a tough question. I think you could make an argument for QB, DT, S, WR, or RB. If I had to pick one I would say QB just because that has been the make or break position under Miles.

    lsulimey

  • Entropy said...

    QB is the obvious danger spot, but after that safety is badly depleted after the first team.

    I think that with Loston, Martin, Sandolph, and Thompson that is a solid 2 deep depth chart.Then you have Eugene who could play if needed.

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  • As has been mentioned already, QB is the easy answer. If Mett goes down I'm not sure at all we would get a similar level of play from the backups...

    After that I think DT is next. Seems to be very little depth there.

    NorfolkVaTiger

  • QB, and then RB, not because we are thin at RB, but because we rely on them so much and always expect to play 3-4 during the season.

    msu1974 ●

  • Bobaganoosh said...

    With the entire defense being young, you can make a case for any position. I believe it's in the secondary. If Mills or Loston were to go down for an extended period of time, then we are forced to play extremely unproven players I base packages and moreso in nickle/dime packages.

    There might be more flexibility at LB then any other position. Barrow, D. Jones, T.Jones, Alexander, Welter, Louis, Feist, and Granier. It is probably the deepest position on the team.

    Toughcritter ●

  • DT has to be the thinnest area.

    Toughcritter ●

  • I'm concerned about the Center position. Who would play if Porter goes down?

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  • I wouldn't count QB in this conversation.. That's 1 position almost every school in the country AND the NFL can't afford to lose, IMO.

    For us though I would have to say CB. We have Mills and Collins, Tre' White.. After that, there's really nothing reliable.

    EDIT: at least on the DL, we have some big bodies that can come in albeit young big bodies.. Greg Gilmore, Mickey Johnson, Quentin Thomas, Frank Herron,Justin Maclin, Christian LaCouture, Jordan Allen, Tashawn Bower, Lewis Neal, Maquedius Bain, Kendall Beckwith.... That's not even naming our 4 starters on the DL.

    I actually like our DL depth better than our CB depth because we have a LOT of bodies, just young guys

    Just my opinion though

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by Lesticals on 3/7/2013 at 9:01 PM

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  • The fact of the matter is that we've lots of talent on the defensive side but very short on experience. Only Rasco has meaningful snaps at DE. Freak and Ego at DT. Mills, Loston, and Collins in the secondary. Linebacker is hands down our deepest unit defensively when it comes to playing time, so any injury to the six guys I listed means we will be forced to field a unit that as a whole is extremely raw.

    Bobaganoosh

  • Ancientiger said...

    I'm concerned about the Center position. Who would play if Porter goes down?

    They would be scrambling. Expect to see some guys cross-train there this spring with Fehoko Fanaika being a possibility.

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  • Lesticals said...

    I wouldn't count QB in this conversation.. That's 1 position almost every school in the country AND the NFL can't afford to lose, IMO.

    For us though I would have to say CB. We have Mills and Collins, Tre' White.. After that, there's really nothing reliable.

    EDIT: at least on the DL, we have some big bodies that can come in albeit young big bodies.. Greg Gilmore, Mickey Johnson, Quentin Thomas, Frank Herron,Justin Maclin, Christian LaCouture, Jordan Allen, Tashawn Bower, Lewis Neal, Maquedius Bain, Kendall Beckwith.... That's not even naming our 4 starters on the DL.

    I actually like our DL depth better than our CB depth because we have a LOT of bodies, just young guys

    Just my opinion though

    I think CB will be fine. Mine is DL and safety. Can you imagine if we lost Loston?

    TigerBallz

  • TigerBallz said...

    I think CB will be fine. Mine is DL and safety. Can you imagine if we lost Loston?

    Safety is way deeper than CB.. Just my opinion though

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  • Sonny Shipp said...

    Reading a couple of threads got me thinking about this when looking back at 2012.

    What is the one position that LSU can least afford to get hit by injuries at?

    RB is one that jumps out to me but I think the DL is just as worrisome when it comes to injuries.

    If any of our veteran CB's go down, we will be in a lot of trouble. We'd be back to seeing the type of coverage we saw in the latter part of last season including the Clemson game.

    "That was Death Valley. It's where opponent's dreams come to die." - Miles

    ColdHotWings

  • INjuries, What Injuries!!! Won't happen this year, we can't afford any

    This post was edited by Dr Dave on 3/10/2013 at 8:39 AM

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    Dr Dave

  • ColdHotWings said...

    If any of our veteran CB's go down, we will be in a lot of trouble. We'd be back to seeing the type of coverage we saw in the latter part of last season including the Clemson game.

    In the secondary, safety and corner are both worrisome because at corner you have Tre'Davious White, Rashard Robinson (if he qualifies) to go with Jalen Mills, Jalen Collins, Dwayne Thomas, Kavahra Holmes and Derrick Raymond.

    That isn't great depth and at safety you have Craig Loston, Ronald Martin, Micah Eugene, Jerqwinick Sandolph, Corey Thompson and Rickey Jefferson.

    It's been a while since LSU was so young, and so thin, at multiple spots on both sides of the ball.

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  • Injuries along the OL are often a total crapshoot because we do not plan ahead.
    We do not show the foresight to cross-train with any sense of purpose.

    when faulk got hurt, collins was the first choice that we tried at LT, but, BECAUSE HE HAD NEVER, EVER PRACTICED THERE BEFORE, it was soon apparent that it would have been too much of a transition to make on the fly - so collins stayed at guard.

    Then, they looked at dworaczyk, coming off major knee surgery. and he actually HAD played and practiced a little LT three years earlier (not since). he played a little at LT and messed up an ankle. next, they moved hurst from RT to LT. hurst had never practiced at LT, either. hurst knew that he was in over his head. hurst was exposed as a huge liability in pass protection vs florida and then left the team.

    fortunately, dworaczyk was able to man up and get us through the rest of the season at LT.

    at the time that faulk got hurt,
    collins had never practiced at LT.
    dworaczyk had not practiced at LT in three years.
    hurst had never practiced at LT.
    what is missing from this picture?

    davenport had gotten ALL of the backup reps behind faulk.
    davenport was NEVER considered as an option to replace faulk.
    wasted reps and negligible planning by our OL coach.

    Remember when blackwell got hurt on the first play of the season against north carolina?
    Who went in at RG?
    Not williford, who had gotten all of the second-team reps at RG.
    No, hebert came up to stud on the sidelines and talked his way into taking over at RG, even though, according to hebert himself, HE HAD NEVER TAKEN A SINGLE SNAP AT GUARD BEFORE IN HIS LIFE IN A GAME OR EVEN IN PRACTICE.
    Hebert had game experience and understood the offense. It was a logical move. but that episode showed just how little cross-training is done in the OL.
    Last year's mad scramble behind faulk at LT confirmed that nothing has changed with our OL coaching.

    At this point, NOBODY knows who will back up porter at center.
    The primary reason that porter is forecast to be our starter is because he has zero competition. He might not be that good, but he has the job because he is our only choice.
    More bodies at center this spring is essential. We need to get our five best offensive linemen on the field and, to do that, we need to use practice time to cross-train a lot more purposefully than we have been doing.

    This post was edited by tigerline on 3/10/2013 at 9:10 AM

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  • tigerline said...

    Injuries along the OL are often a total crapshoot because we do not plan ahead. We do not show the foresight to cross-train with any sense of purpose.

    when faulk got hurt, collins was the first choice that we tried at LT, but, BECAUSE HE HAD NEVER, EVER PRACTICED THERE BEFORE, it was soon apparent that it would have been too much of a transition to make on the fly - so collins stayed at guard.

    Then, they looked at dworaczyk, coming off major knee surgery. and he actually HAD played and practiced a little LT three years earlier (not since). he played a little at LT and messed up an ankle. next, they moved hurst from RT to LT. hurst had never practiced at LT, either. hurst knew that he was in over his head. hurst was exposed as a huge liability in pass protection vs florida and then left the team.

    fortunately, dworaczyk was able to man up and get us through the rest of the season at LT.

    at the time that faulk got hurt, collins had never practiced at LT. dworaczyk had not practiced at LT in three years. hurst had never practiced at LT. what is missing from this picture?

    davenport had gotten ALL of the backup reps behind faulk. davenport was NEVER considered as an option to replace faulk. wasted reps and negligible planning by our OL coach.

    Remember when blackwell got hurt on the first play of the season against north carolina? Who went in at RG? Not williford, who had gotten all of the second-team reps at RG. No, hebert came up to stud on the sidelines and talked his way into taking over at RG, even though, according to hebert himself, HE HAD NEVER TAKEN A SINGLE SNAP AT GUARD BEFORE IN HIS LIFE IN A GAME OR EVEN IN PRACTICE. Hebert had game experience and understood the offense. It was a logical move. but that episode showed just how little cross-training is done in the OL. Last year's mad scramble behind faulk at LT confirmed that nothing has changed with our OL coaching.

    At this point, NOBODY knows who will back up porter at center. The primary reason that porter is forecast to be our starter is because he has zero competition. He might not be that good, but he has the job because he is our only choice. More bodies at center this spring is essential. We need to get our five best offensive linemen on the field and, to do that, we need to use practice time to cross-train a lot more purposefully than we have been doing.

    I thought Porter did a good job when he was called upon last season. You also have to wonder how much of having Stud as OC and OL coach took away from his time with the OL and may have affected some of the issues you mentioned?

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